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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 4, 2012 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: song/year

In hopes of generating some musical conversation I thought I would pose this question to those inclined to partake.I recently went to listen to some 1970 GD and it made me think of what songs/versions represented 1970 GD in my head,with that model in mind here is what I came up with.

68'
Clementine
http://archive.org/details/gd1968-02-02.sbd.miller.97345.sbeok.flac16

The Eleven
http://archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.sbd.miller.115593.flac16

69'
Dark Star
http://archive.org/details/gd69-06-07.sbd.kaplan.9074.sbeok.shnf

Cosmic Charlie
http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/grateful-dead/concerts/fillmore-west-march-01-1969-set-1.html

70'
Spanish jam -> Turn on Your Lovelight
http://archive.org/details/gd1970-02-11.sbd.smith.patched.99154.sbeok.flac16

Attics of My Life (acoustic)
http://archive.org/details/gd70-11-06.aud.warner.17183.sbeok.shnf

71'
Not Fade Away -> Goin' Down the Road -> Not Fade Away
http://archive.org/details/gd1971-11-07.sbd.lai.2580.shnf

China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider
http://archive.org/details/gd71-04-10.sbd.willy.8674.sbeok.shnf

72'
Dark Star
http://archive.org/details/gd72-09-24.sbd.jeffm.2202.sbeok.shnf

Other One
http://archive.org/details/gd72-12-10.sbd.gorinsky.5801.sbeok.shnf

73'
Playin' in the Band
http://archive.org/details/gd1973-09-07.sbd.goodbear.1126.sbeok.shnf

Here Comes Sunshine
http://archive.org/details/gd1973-12-06.sbd.miller.105560.flac16

74'
Eyes of the World -> China Doll
http://archive.org/details/gd74-06-20.sbd.clugston.2179.sbeok.shnf

Jam (out of Let it Grow)
http://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-28.sonyecm99.moore.berger.106003.flac24

75'
Blues for Allah Suite
http://archive.org/details/gd1975-03-23.sbd.miller.110126.flac16

76'
High Time
http://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-19.sbd.digitalrbb.miller.111852.flac16

Help on the Way -> Slipknot -> Franklin's Tower
http://archive.org/details/gd1976-08-04.sbd.miller-tobin.35171.flac

77'
Comes a Time
http://archive.org/details/gd77-05-09.sbd.connor.8304.sbeok.shnf

Might as Well
http://archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

78'
Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain
http://archive.org/details/gd1978-09-02.sbd.miller.106818.flac16

It Must Have Been the Roses
http://archive.org/details/gd1978-07-08.sbd.miller.106070.flac16

79'
Jack Straw
http://archive.org/details/gd1979-01-11.sbd.miller.102430.flac16

Mississppi Half-Step -> Franklin's Tower
http://archive.org/details/gd1979-10-28.sbd.miller.105434.flac16

I'm not suggesting anyone come up with two selections for each year,contribute as you see fit.


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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 5, 2012 1:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: song/year

Great question!

Most GD tunes are probably associated in my mind with particular periods, but only vaguely: e.g., I might have an opinion on when they were at their "best," or which I prefer, but it's not an INTENSE association.

There are a few, though, that really do have a powerful time association for me. One is Estimated. I associate that with summer, and also associate it strongly with the '77 sound. I think that's for a couple of reason: the song itself was new then; I was new to hearing the band the next year (and I think I used to hear it pretty often on tapes from '77, so the "sound" is "right" to me and I have personal memories that "click" with it); and those really may happen to be the very best versions.

Anyway, a "real" Estimated to me is a '77 Estimated, and '77 also makes me think of Estimated (at least in part.) Like this one:

http://archive.org/details/gd77-11-01.sbd.jeffm.2485.sbeok.shnf

'77 also means a '77 St Stephen, and while that's not my favorite type of a Stephen, it definitely signifies the year to me. A wonderful stretch I listened to just last night (hot weather having prompted me into an Estimated mode) is on DP 10, 12/29/77, from Estimated to Eyes to Stephen.

Funny that you actually tagged a few of the songs there that I do have a strong "year associations" with, and I agree with you ...

It Must Have Been the Roses is very '78 to me, somehow. Scarlet > Fire seems particularly "right" then, too (77-79ish).

And both Jack Straw and MI Half-Step do seem to "signify" '79. (I also think the best Minglewoods are '79, but I don't necessarily THINK "'79" when I think of Minglewood, if that makes sense. Whereas Jack Straw and Mississippi Half-Step do sort of "mean" that era to me.)

I also agree with Eyes > China Doll as a great choice for '74. (Well, all of those are good choices, but I might come up with different ones for some of the others ... that one is perfect, though, IMO.)

I think my list for It Just Seems Very 1970 would have to include this Dancin:

http://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-06.sbd.gans-hall.95.shnf

My '69 would have to include Doin That Rag.

'67 would need a Viola.

Maybe think of more later ...




This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2012-06-05 08:28:17

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 5, 2012 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: song/year

It was a multi-faceted question,which you picked up on and answered accordingly,how some songs represent a year in your mind because they sounded good that year or for other reasons such as debut or personal circumstances.We seem to be in agreeance on a number of songs,I also thought the same Dancin' from 5-6-70 would have been a fine choice and was kickin' around the idea of Doin' That Rag from 5-10-69 or 6-5-69.Estimated would have also been a fine choice for 77',5/18,6/9,11/1 all are fine versions and definitely have a full-on 77' vibe.The choices I made were what I think are extraordinary performances of songs that also capture what the band was about in that year.Thanks for an interesting response.